Month: January 2017

I spoke to Brisbane Black metal band Graveir’s singer, Gloom on life on the gold coast (Think The Jersey Shore), Black Metal in Indonesia and the wall separating God from Humanity – this was a fun interview to do – so make sure you read it!

* So first and foremost you guys are from the Gold Coast in Australia..What’s it like to live there ?
We are actually from Brisbane, the Gold Coast is a separate city further south. Personally having lived in a number of cities I enjoy Brisbane, despite its humid and unpleasant summer the lifestyle is far more relaxed than other cities and it is close to nature. It has developed its own character in recent years with a number of restaurants, bars and music venues opening.

* Is there much of a metal scene in Brisbane? I would imagine its predominately techno party music there..no?
It’s in reasonable health with a handful of good bands, venues and regular international and local shows. As always the number of people attending shows could be better but this is a problem everywhere.
I don’t really pay much attention to forms of music I am uninterested in so I can’t speak to that in any detail. Brisbane/Gold Coast/Sunshine Coast has always seemed to produce a large number of death metal bands. Portal, Temple Nightside, Disentomb, Laceration Mantra, Impetuous Ritual and Grave Upheaval are some of the current bands that spring to mind.

* How hard is it to keep a group of like minded band members together? I speak to a lot of BM bands that end up being one man projects or duos just as its so hard to find 4-5 guys all on the same wave length?
It is both difficult and incredibly easy at the same time. Creating the right environment and bringing in people in who will thrive in that environment is the key. Graveir had been something I had been working on for a number of years prior to moving to Brisbane but it was always intended to be a band. I was content to let it sit for as long as it needed before entrusting it to others so have been fortunate enough to have chosen well to the point where we all hold ownership of the band and have the same understanding of what is and isn’t right for Graveir.

Everyone owns the band and must take responsibility for its well being by word, thought or deed. The greater quantum of effort goes into creating and maintaining a collaborative and productive working environment. It is natural for everyone to have periods where motivation waxes and wanes, the other members should act as the counterbalance to that.

* Growing up what got you into black metal? I know Death metal has been huge down there for a long time and bands like the Berzerker did well down there (In fact doesn’t Luke Kenny spend half his life in Brisbane these days?)
I’d say it was a natural progression of constantly searching for new music and moving to things that are faster and heavier until you reach a point where you want more than just heaviness and go looking for deeper emotional and philosophical content and a sense of conviction within the music.

Queensland produces quite a few death metal bands and it is a style that continues to be well received. As for The Berzerker I don’t believe they have been active for some time at least not to the best of my knowledge.

* Unlike many Black metal bands these days who record on home studios you guys hired the local professional studio – what made you guys choose this route? Was it easy or tough to get the in house engineer (producer) to go with your sound?
Recording at home is an option however would require far more time and effort on our part, we have enough comfort to demo material and to record dry guitar tracks but a bigger project would be a large learning curve and perhaps not the best way to properly present the material. Choosing to record at Adversary Studios in Sydney was an easy decision for us. Aaron has been a friend of ours for many years so already understands us and were looking for recording wise intrinsically and he shares similar tastes and interests so is very much in his element from a recording standpoint.

* From memory Queensland used to be very conservative back in the 70s and 80s? Do you still get many upright concerned citizens turning their noses up at you (or worse) when you play local shows?
It’s never occurred in the time I’ve lived here. Queensland is conservative but that’s somewhat split between those who are conservative versus those who would just prefer the government had less interference in peoples day to day lives. I think the areas that are largely conservative tend to be further north and fall more into the latter category.

* Do you guys play regular shows in Queensland or do you have to travel to NSW and Victoria to do so?
We have had a pretty steady run of shows along the east coast this year (Melbourne, Wollongong, Sydney, Brisbane). As far as shows are concerned it is our preference not to play more than 2-3 times a year in any one location. Furthermore we choose to do shows based on our interest in the lineup and will not do shows simply for the sake of doing a show. Playing shows is not a money making venture so that leaves personal interest as the only valid reason to do anything.

* Have you toured the whole country yet? Unlike America I am sure there are very few places to play out side of the major cities?
You are correct, outside of the capital cities and the smaller regional cities there are very few places to play and the distance between locations often necessitates long drives or costly airline travel. The east coast run is the cheapest and easiest to do by far. If the right lineup was put together we’d welcome the opportunity to play some of our more remote capitals like Adelaide, Perth and Hobart

* Have you guys made contact with Black metal fans in Asia at all? I know China has a big BM scene although I would imagine places like Indonesia would not take kindly to any form of “blasphemy”
We’ve has very little contact with Asia thus far, but hopefully that will change this year. You may be surprised about Indonesia. It has a number of large metal festivals and is by all reports an excellent place to play with attendances in the thousands. Indonesians tend to favor grindcore and brutal death metal and the president Joko Widodo is a Napalm Death fan. In comparison Australia has no real large scale extreme metal festivals and attendance would be in the hundreds at best.

In fact, Japan and Indonesia are probably the two main Asian destinations as far as playing shows is concerned. As far as blasphemy goes I think most countries couldn’t care less unless you blaspheme against the dominant religion. Any anti-religious themes within our music tend to be more by implication and subtext rather than overt blasphemy so it would be a difficult to mount much of an argument.

* How did you guys get to be on that Terrorizer compilation cd? You get any interesting feedback because of that?
Promo is a surprisingly not as difficult as people may think. Either one of two things happens someone approaches you with an offer or you approach them and you take things from there. In the case of Terrorizer I simply emailed them an enquiry and they got straight back in touch with me with the terms to which we agreed and that was it really. Bands will regularly get approached with various offers or requests.

If you are going to spend money do some research and spend wisely. Any major publication is guaranteed to require payment, Terrorizer is no exception however it was reasonable for what they were offering and there has been an increase in activity on our websites so I would consider it a wise investment.

Nothing by way of feedback as a result but as a wholly independent, self-managed band it never hurts to have another channel to get your music out to people.

* Iconostasis by definition is a wall of icons and religious paintings – why did you guys decided to name your latest album that?
The title was XI’s idea and one which perfectly reflects the band. An Iconostasis is more specifically supposed to be a representation of the link between God and humanity, however common people are forbidden to enter the doorway in the Iconostasis so from another angle it may also be viewed as the wall separating God from humanity reflecting the arrogance of organized religion and the submission of those it considers inferior. At yet another level it can be viewed that religion is the wall separating individuals from the God within themselves which is each persons own ability to project the force of their will, strength and intellect into the universe and by doing so shape the world around them.

A lot of our lyrical content focuses on the exploration of the sacred and the profane often being one and the same dependent on perspective so the title and artwork seemed a perfect distillation of that concept.

* Are any of you guys practicing pagans in real life? if so what faith?
Not really no. Religion holds more of an interest for me as a sociological construct. Religion makes far less sense today than it ever did. For example polytheistic religions such as the Greek and Egyptian pantheons of Gods made far more sense representing facets of nature or of humanity. These gods were used as a form of explanation of the operation of nature and society and these gods having been created by humans were not infallible all powerful beings, they were subject to cruel, petty and irrational behavior and in that regard were no better than the people who worshiped them.

Monotheism if anything is lazy creative writing, where stories, powers and characters can be condensed into a single being with no explanation other than “God is all powerful, just because”. Monotheism starts from the position “there is only one true God, and it is mine” which must inevitably result in conflict where more than one religion exists. Polytheism allows for the worship of any number of gods for any number of purposes without one necessarily being true over another. I’d identify more with trying to act consistently in line with one’s own personal code of ethics and morals over blindly adopting someone else’s. This is a sentiment shared by the other members as well.

* Does the band have any goals to play Europe or any of the Americas?
The goal is always to play on lineups that we would go see if we weren’t playing on them. Whether the opportunities present themselves here at home or overseas is of no consequence. The chance to see more of the world is always welcomed however.

* What can we expect from Graveir in 2017?
There will be a number of smaller releases throughout the year which should keep everyone busy while we work on the follow up to Iconostasis. We have some plans in the works with regards to shows but discussions are still in very early stages.

* Any final words for your fans?
We are humbled by the support. 2017 will not be an idle year for us.

Murdryck have been around for some time now and just seem to be getting better and better I spoke to Skärseld from the band on their “reboot”, the various metal scenes in Sweden, how come some many great metal bands come out of a country the size of Sweden, growing up in Scotland and much more.

* You’ve been at this for some time now – my biggest question to you is what made the switch between your dark ambient sound to a more classic Black metal sound?
Ok, well I think it’s fairer to say the band is a reboot and the Black Metal angle wasn’t something we drifted into. It was never my intention to move Murdryck towards a new sound. The intention was to start a new Black Metal band that had the key ingredients I wanted to hear. After trying to come up with a name for a new band I decided to take the name with me to the new style. Murdryck was never a band that was well known on the scene at the time or at any point afterwards so it seemed a reasonable idea to keep the name.

* Does the name Murdryck mean anything in English?
It’s a made up word. At the time of Murdryck’s original creation I was extremely inspired by the more ambient side of Black Metal and became immersed in the atmospherics people were adding to their albums in the mid 90s. I’d always liked soundtrack music with dark synths and simple textures. I think simple music can be entirely captivating when done in this way.

* You are based in the town of Vänersborg Sweden? is there much or a metal scene there or does everyone just converge on Gothenburg? If so how far is Gothenburg from you?
People always ask about ”the scene”. I don’t think there’s ever been a scene anyway for this kind of music. At best, a large group of associates who know each other or of each other. I’ve always been a satellite my whole life. Never really part of anything just doing my own thing. We do have a rockbar, Backstage, in the town adjacent to Vänersborg and that’s pretty amazing in reality that a town that size can sustain a rock bar. It’s the local hangout for people of all ages and all musical forms from punk to metal and the subgenres contained within. Backstage do a lot for the smaller bands by giving them gigs without asking for anything. They also manage to bring in more known touring bands sometimes which is pretty cool. Paul Di’Anno has played there, Chris Holmes from WASP, Anvil have played there. Gothenburg is about an hour on the train. I rarely go there. I rarely go out to be honest. I just can’t be fucked with a night life. Plus I’m pretty asocial anyway so these things are just a hassle for me rather than things I enjoy.

* Do you think there is much rivalry between the cities of Gothenburg and Stockholm?
I don’t think there’s any rivalries within Metal music at all. Swedes are not culturally bred for confrontation anyway. If you play with a band at a show you usually get to know them and they become friends or at least an acquaintance you can call upon if you need help with anything. I’m not the kind of person who goes around being everyone’s best pal but I’m happy to help anyone if they ask. I do think a lot of other people have an agenda when they befriend another band and suddenly they call them their best mates or brothers in arms and all that crap.

* The Country of Sweden is smaller than New York City – why do you think so many good bands come out of Sweden? is there something in the water there?
I can’t offer anything other than my limited perspective since I wasn’t around in Sweden at the time a lot of black and death bands were kicking off in the early 90s and becoming recognized for being a quality act.

I am from England originally and spent my formative years in Scotland. I had one friend who liked metal back in those days and I was treated like a total outcast for being into metal. Like some kind of zoo animal almost. There were few opportunities for me to play in a band or even see gigs. I’d have to travel to Glasgow which was a long way. I’d watch bands like Carcass and Cradle of Filth play to around 30-50 people back then. For me, being into metal was a completely private affair but it was exciting. I’d order mail order cassettes and CDs from small distros and read fanzines. I’ve been in Sweden 16 years now and my experience here is that people do not follow any rigid social structures like other countries. You can be whatever you want to be an no one gives a shit. On the other hand, Sweden does have a kind of copy-cat culture. As soon as any trend kicks off in the US people here are doing it. Hanging around in clown outfits or whatever, we are doing it.

The people here are quite peer influenced. It’s incredible how many people do the same cultural stuff despite having completely different interests. So to answer your question I think not having any social stigma to being a metal head means the number of people listening to metal per capita is quite high. The copy-cat culture creates a diverse musical platform. There’s another reason too…getting a rehearsal room here is cheap as you can get subsidies for it. It means anyone at any age can play music and not be restricted by lack of income.

* What bands were an inspiration for you to get into Black metal?
The inspiration to get into Black Metal came from the early days. Burzum, Gehenna, stuff like that it. Originally it came from Norway because that’s where the music came from. I think what I share with a lot of Swedes though is a love for Iron Maiden and bands from the 80s. Megadeth, WASP, Slayer. I think musically I am more inspired by these bands (as are a lot of Swedish BM bands) but have added the black influence from the bands from the 90s. We get compared a lot to Dissection. Which is great but at the same time it’s odd cos I’ve never been a big fan. I’ve heard them. They were ahead of their time in their day but I can only name a couple of songs when I hear them. My guess is that Murdryck and Dissection are influenced by the same things. It would be a lie to say a band like Dissection haven’t influenced in some respect. The BM bands Murdryck are inspired by have been inspired by Dissection. So a more indirect influence I guess.

* Your lyrics have a biblical theme to them – do you believe that we live on after death? That we have had past lives?
Metal Archives is great for spreading false information. The lyrics have never been biblically influenced. The lyrics are dark in nature but somewhat semi abstract. They are thematic but they are not biblical.

I don’t believe in life after death. You go out as you were born. There was nothing before you were born and there will be nothing afterwards. I dislike the term Atheist. It tags a lack of belief as a belief system. But we don’t have words for not believing in Fairies or Father Christmas. You don’t say ”I am an a-fairyiest. I don’t believe in Santa I’m a-santaist.”

* You seem to write most lyrics in English – I know many Swedes are extremely fluent in English yet some bands choose to sing in Swedish?
English is much more diverse language than Swedish. You don’t realize it as a native speaker but it’s fantastically rich. There are hundreds of ways to say the same thing. It’s an art form to write English. I think Swedish is a little less expressive in that sense but Swedish can be very cool to write in when the music calls for it. We don’t consciously aim to capture a greater audience but a universal language is easier for people to catch on to.

* After making so many releases now you guys must be seasoned veterans – what in your mind is the best way to record your albums now?

I consider this a new band. The only thing seasoned about me is my age but I have been inactive from music for a long time previous to this incarnation of Murdryck. I played bass guitar for a short period with Lord Belial to help them out with a few gigs when their current bassist couldn’t commit. I guess from there I caught the bug again to get creative. I’ve always had an interest in recording and mixing music so for us the home studio is where all our creations happen. I usually make the songs on the computer in demo form then the arrangements are made from the demo. This comes from jamming mostly. Unfortunately, I am not the kind of person who has music in my head that I can pluck an idea and write it down. I jam until i get something that I think has potential. This can inspire to hear something in my head later or to add a texture but the songs are rarely formed without improvisation. Sometimes a song can develop and the end result have none of the original ideas.

Finally, everything’s redone properly in a studio environment at my house. It makes no sense for a band this size to be spending money at a studio. The results wouldn’t be as good either because I can spend as much time in my studio as I like perfecting everything. If we had a big budget and several weeks to record and mix I wouldn’t mind letting someone else have a go to see if a producer and professional mixer/mastering engineer can make a big difference to our sound. But the recording is a big part of the creativity for me. Bands our size and even larger are spending their own money to finance studio recordings. I’d rather put hat money into something I can keep or use again. At least owning a studio I have a chance to recuperate some costs doing mixing work for others. Not wishing to toot my own horn but not everyone has the capability to record and mix at home to a good standard. It takes years of practice and knowledge to be able to mix well and understand all the software and hardware in the studio. I couldn’t go to a professional studio and mix though. I’d be lost. But in the environment I control I can do a pretty good job.

* Are any of the band practicing pagans..if so what faith?
Fuck no.

* I know you are planning on live shows and tours soon – in an ideal world what would be your two most interesting countries to tour? Japan? South America? Russia? etc
Touring is an unrealistic goal for us. I don’t have the motivation to spend weeks away from work and home. I don’t really like it that much anyway. A few gigs here and there can be fun but usually it’s a pain in the ass. I’d like to be able to go and play in Germany. It’s close enough and far away enough to be interesting and is culturally rich. Japan and South America would be cool I guess but it’s not something I dream about. Being asocial and a bit stuck in my ways I am not the easiest person to be on the road with. I don’t like going out for beers every night and the routine of gigging isn’t really that fun. It’s just a lot of work and little time to do anything. There’s so much wasted time just hanging around waiting for things to happen.

* Have any of the band been to the USA before and if so what did they think?
No.

* What can we expect from Murdryck in 2017?
Well, there’s been no official announcement and this is the first interview I’ve done for a few months but we have had a restructuring in the band. Our bass player moved to guitar and vocals. Our guitarist and left and returned as our bass player. The previous vocalist is no longer with us.

Right now I am working on the recording of our new material. It’s more than likely to be an EP and appear around April 2017. I’d like to do an album though tbh but we have agreed with the record label to try and have at least an EP ready for March/April. With the way it’s going it’s doable but we don’t have enough new material for an album as of today. If we miss the April deadline then I think a new album is more likely around October 2017.

* Any final words to your fans?
Yeah we appreciate all our fans that take an interest in the music but the people who are prepared to put some money into our digital downloads or buy our physical CDs are really our supporters. I personally believe if you spend money on something you have a deeper connection to what you buy into rather than if it’s free. When things are free you’ve nothing to invest in. If you pay for something you’ll get more out of it. It also goes some way to helping the band recoup their costs.

Thanks for the interview! // Skärseld

I recently spoke with legendary Greek Black metal band Kawir – we talked about what it takes to be in a band for over 25 years, the Greek Black metal scene, being a practicing pagan, playing shows in South America and much more.

1.Kawir has been going for over 3 decades now – why do you think you have managed to keep going for so long – especially when the average band lasts about 5 years? What’s the secret?
Well you have to have confidence in your ability and the fire inside you otherwise as you said you will not last.

The secret is that I never saw it as an obligation so when I was feeling that now is the time I started to compose and recording,that’s why in almost 25 years we have released 6 full length albums!

2.You had an early release on legendary label Cacophonous – how did that come to be?
Yeah back in 1993 we were in contact with Mirai(Sigh) and we anted to make a split together so we sent the material to Cacophonous they liked it and release the legendary split!

3. Greece has been known for its Epic metal bands but not so much its black metal – how did you discover black metal and what attracted you to playing it more than say Epic Death metal?
Actually as a part of the scene from the end of 80s(Nocturnal Death,Zemial) I was listening more Classic Heavy Metal and the first albums of Morbid Angel ,ASPHYX etc. but in the start of 90s I was felt more close to the black metal as it was more Philosophical and rebellion against the monotheistic religions.

4. How is the black metal scene in Greece? Are some towns stronger than others for our type of music?
Well Athens were always strong but the last years Thessaloniki started to have a good scene also.

5. Some non English speaking bands make a point to sing in English however you guys have stayed true to your native tongue which i think is great, do you feel it limits foreign audiences at all to enjoying your songs?
No there is no limit ,we are keeping the ancient values ,Ancient Greek language were the official language of the known world for thousand years even in Roman Empire all the books were written in Ancient Greek but also the new testament which is paradox for me as the First Christian Emperors were forbidden the Ancient Greek Language!

6. You guys sing a lot about Hellenic paganism – are any of the band members practicing pagans? if so what faith?
Actually yes I am practicing ,the correct term is Hellenic Polytheism.We are fighting for our recognition and our rights to perform our rituals again in our Ancient Temples.

7. You guys played Brazil this year – was that your first visit there? how did you enjoy it?
It was our first time in the American Soil (Brazil ,Chile and Canada).We liked it a lot ,the crowd was perfect gave us a lot energy and our performance there was total crazy.We gave them a promise that with the next album we will be back.

8. Have you done much touring of the USA? If not are there any places here you would love to play?
We never had the opportunity to tour in USA we would like to come and see the life there and play for the maniacs.

9. I know the band has played Finland before but have you ever played Norway or Sweden? If so how were you received playing there?
Yeah we have a lot of friends in Finland, we had a Finish tour back in 2007 with Skyforger and we played in Steelfest 2 years ago.Great memories I have to say.

It was supposed to play in Norway back in 2007 but it was canceled so we never played till now in Norway and Sweden.

10. Any final words?
A big thanks for all the support form our fans all these years I have to say the best are coming.Hails!!!

In case you missed it Sweden’s Seedna  released one of the best Atmospheric Black Metal albums of 2016. As you know if I’m into a band I have to dig deeper and want to know more about them. I spoke to the guys in Seedna this week and we covered everything from the “Lidkoping Sound” to playing in a stone cellar to 6 people in a tiny village to multi instrumentalist Olle’s departure from the band – read on.

* You guys are from Lidkoping if I am not mistaken..how is the music scene there as opposed to the more well known cities of Stockholm and Gothenburg? Americans talk about the Gothenburg sound – do you think there is a traditional “Lidkoping sound?
Erik – Lidköping isn’t a very big town, around 40000 people live here, so the music scene is rather small and the bands that form here are everything between Punk to Metal. It´s scattered between the genres, a typical Lidköping sound doesn’t exist I believe. Not compared to the Gothenburg sound anyways.

Max – With the internet, I think stuff like that is less present. Many parts of the world have access to everything now and get inspired from all kinds of people and places. I have this idea or impression that the local scene in different cities was more prominent and alive before the internet. It surely exist to some extent. But not so much around here, what I can tell. Definitely not in our kind of genre.

* How did you guys get into Black metal? What was the gateway bands for you guys?
Erik – The band that got me interested in the more extreme form of metal was Cradle of Filth, a friend sent me some song when i was 15-16 years old and told me to listen to them. It was nothing I have ever heard before and I was mesmerised with the evil sound. I later came across Dark Funeral and got totally sold on Black Metal for a while.

Johan – It all started with Cradle of Filth and Dimmu Borgir, but I like most kinds of dark music.

Max – Mayhem, Burzum and Dissection were probably the first bands mostly responsible for bringing me into the different areas of Black Metal and beyond.

* What inspired you guys to take Black metal in the direction that you did?
Erik – We didn’t have any particular genre in our minds when we made “Forlorn”, at least not me. The biggest inspiration i have is my own emotions and creating music is a very good way of channeling them.

Johan – What keeps me going is actually playing and performing the music. It’s so much fun to play music, that is why we do it. Atmospheric music is the best music sometimes and we needed the whole kind of atmospheric vibe to create Forlorn, not only the heavy metal parts. Kind of inspired from old school stuff too I guess. I think we all like these mood-changes, differences and happenings through the record. It connects to your inner self, filled with many different feelings. You never feel the same all the time.

Max – We don’t really think of it as we are taking a certain genre in a certain direction. It just happened to be that the outcome of our different inspirations forged together with the vision of creating something that is dark and ambient sounded like “atmospheric black metal” to most people.

* What kind of music do you guys listen to in your free time? Any surprises for us?
Erik – For the most part it is Post-Rock, Post-Metal and Doom. Black Metal and Hardcore is something I listen to as well but not as much.

Johan – Check out the records Catch Thirty-Three with Meshuggah, Land Of The Evening Star with Dark Forest , Runaljod trilogy with Wardruna, Visor Om Slutet with Finntroll, Dakhmandal with Dark Buddha Rising, Ghosts I-IV with Nine Inch Nails, Udu Wudu with Magma, The Rifts with A Swarm Of The Sun, Untitled ( ) with Sigur Rós, Drifters/Love Is The Devil with Dirty Beaches. Some of my favorites.

Max – I’m mostly into old school type metal and bands that have that special spirit and energy. It’s something that is hard to put into words but appeals to me very much. But I am also interested in other genres outside of metal like for example dark ambient, traditional and classical music. Even some electronic and experimental stuff.
With to many bands to mention I’m just going to recommend a few very dear albums from different Swedish metal bands that comes to mind. I think they are well worth checking out if you haven’t heard of them. “A Flame To The Ground Beneath” by Lost Horizon, “Sister” by In Solitude, “Wolverine Blues” by Entombed.

* Were you guys pleased with the amazing response you got from your latest album “Forlorn?”
Erik – The response we got for “Forlorn” was beyond my beliefs, it is a powerful feeling when something you have laid down a lot of emotion and work into gets so much positive critic. I am very happy for all that.

Johan – Yes it was really great for us and we are very thankful.

Max – It has been very inspirational and rewarding to see that this record that we worked so hard on is appreciated by others. Firstly, we do it for ourselves. Chasing this vision, trying to make it into an actual piece of art that we are satisfied with and proud of. Then, if others appreciate it and get something out of listening and experiencing it is just great. That is some sort of proof that we are making an impact on people and hopefully bring them to open their minds and think.

* What was your favorite review of the album? Which publication?
Johan – ..maybe No Clean Singing.

Max – For me it was this one from Angry Metal Guy when he began describing a nightmare. Later contemplating whether falling asleep to “Forlorn” was the cause of this dream haha. “Falling asleep to” can sound negative, but I see it positively. In a way, we aspire to bring the listener to another “dimension”. As pretentious as it may seem, a dream world is the perfect place really haha.

* How did you approach writing the album? Did you start with moods or was it like a traditional band – a guitar riff and then built upon it?
Erik – When we create music it usually starts with us jamming and improvising with things we have had in our minds for a while, sometimes we all get in a sort of trance and just keep going without stopping. It is in those times we know we have something good going so we start to jam and improvise more on that particular sound or riff we liked, and we lay down structures as times go by. For “Forlorn” we had a somewhat clear concept of the feeling we wanted for the album so we jammed a lot with that in mind.

Johan – I’d say that most of it was created in the rehearsal room, but of course some ideas comes even after rehearsing, when you’re home doing something else. We have tried to build on guitar riffs but it’s not our way of doing it. We often just start playing, everybody at the same time or maybe two at a time or maybe even one of us play solo for the others. Then you listen and work with what you hear. I think that is what is happening every rehearsal now. So we are very much a band that is working in different moods, modes, themes, scenery and atmospheres. And then you start answering a lot of questions that comes from within, is it dark? is it powerful? is it sad? You have to know what you want and then you try to grasp it. Find those dark tones, combined with the heavy sound, some touch of sadness, a sparkling of melancholy and a soft distant trembling earthquake, to link up with those burdened feelings you can get sometimes from everyday life.

Max – Starting out jamming on ideas that would become “Wander”. Wanting to make this massive epic song that was like a journey, a story. I think we talked about making it a “one-song EP” haha. But the story grew, as did our vision. Different events and atmospheres in the story pushed for more and different kinds of songs. Some we made with the specific mood in mind. Some ideas were written before, and we thought their feeling fitted perfectly.

* I presume the hourglass on the cover of Forlorn is representative of Life and Death – I am a great believer in Life-Death – rebirth. do any of the band hold these kind of beliefs? Odinism? the Old gods or ??
Johan – I admit that I am fascinated by the old norse religion. And of course something comes after death. Why wouldn’t it. Even if it’s nothingness, our perception of time wouldn’t exist anymore, I really wonder what would that be like. An eternity through time passing by in the blink of an eye? The world is exciting with all these questions we can’t answer.

Max – There is this mystery. Not knowing what comes next when we die. The whole spiritual world. Ancient and modern religions. Forces of nature. The meaning of life. The whole concept about the album is really up for interpretation, if you want to read between the lines and project your own thoughts. It is not about preaching and give you answers. But rather about making you question.

* I know Olle played some traditional instruments on the recording of this album. Was that something he learned just for the album or was it something he had been doing for many years now?
Erik – It was actually something he learned for live performances, we want the feeling of us performing a ritual live. So Olle started to experiment with a lot of different traditional instruments to get the ritualistic feeling and it all just fitted so well in “Forlorn”. Rainmaker, Singing bowls, Seadrum and Spring Drum is just some of the instruments that was used.

Johan – Music to me is a bit different than just being tied to one or different instruments. An instrument is a tool a musician uses to create music and to express feelings. I actually think anyone can pick up any instrument and join in and make sound to add to the music. And for us all to listen to and enjoy.

* Can you talk about Olle leaving the band? How do you think it will affect new music from Seedna?
Erik – When Olle told us he wanted to leave Seedna it came somewhat of a surprise to me, we had just released “Forlorn” on Transcending Obscurity and got amazing response and great reviews. It was a rough time for all of us when we wrote the music because we all have very strong opinions of how we want our music to sound, but I believe it is because of our strong personalities that we were able to create good music. So it was a sad day for everyone in Seedna.
We had to cancel our plans for playing live in the autumn. Me, Max and Johan agreed that all of us should do vocals from now on and it worked out great!

Johan – We still feel good, I mean, of course there will be change in how things are done. Less involved in creating means more of those involved in creating.

Max – To me it wasn’t a big surprise as he had been a bit absent in the last months following up to his departure. He wanted to take a step back, focus on other stuff in life. Ultimately he also wanted to take a different path musically, which is totally fine and understandable. This experimental approach that we have isn’t for everyone. It is kind of like a new era for Seedna. For our latest music video we made a recording of “Frozen” to show the new sound with the three of us screaming together. Seedna without Olle will definitely be something different lyrically and in the vocal part of the music. We are very excited to see what we will come up with in this new formation. So far it is feeling really good and promising.

* What can we expect musically from Seedna in 2017?
Max – We are working on new material at the moment. Talking about probably recording this year, not promising anything tho hehe. We are developing, as always, new sounds and themes. Our next release will be different from our previous ones for sure. But that has been the thing about every recording right from the start anyway haha.

* I know the band have toured Sweden and some parts of the Norway – what’s been your favorite place to play live so far?
Erik – A small village called Uddebo in Sweden. We played in a stone cellar of an old, almost a dilapidated house were 6 people lived in a collective, they were so nice and welcoming. Everyone knew each other, I guess it’s like that in small villages.

Johan – Uddebo as Erik said, we had to improvise our intro a little bit because of a faulty cable to the bass, I recall. So we jammed until Erik fixed it. And the smoke machine added an insanely amount of smoke that quickly filled the whole small room we played in. I couldn’t even see the crowd, nor could they see me. Imagine this together with the crowd already having a good time and then add dark atmospheric drone-music for what felt like more than 5 minutes just as an intro. And then we started our setlist.

* Is there much difference playing to Norwegian fans than Swedish fans?
Erik – I can’t really say that it is a lot of difference between the two, both countries like to get drunk and head bang!

Johan – No idea, I can’t really focus on much else but the performance and what the other members are doing when we are playing, keeping an eye out.

Max – If they are not drunk, and if it is not a “big” band, Scandinavians can in general be a pretty lame crowd for local scenes in my experience, sadly. Not that it affects us negatively like it could with “rock’n’roll” kind of bands.. We get a positive response from many of them anyway, as we can be kind of an introvert experience.

* Are there any plans for the band to play the USA? Also have any of the band visited the USA before and did they like it?
Erik – Currently we have no plans to play in the USA, but if we get the opportunity we will take it for sure!

Max – We would love to go there. But it seems to be a lot of work getting it all together with the visas and stuff. Since we aren’t an established touring band yet, we will most likely tour Europe first when we come around to it.

* Do the band have any “wish list” places they would like to play?
Erik – Every country is on my wish list but Japan and Russia is my dream countries to play in.
Japan because it such a crazy country and have a lot of good and interesting music.
Russia because we simply have a lot of fans there, would be awesome to meet them.

Johan – Finland and Iceland.

* Any final words to your friends and fans?
Erik – Hail Satan Worship Doom.

Johan – What he said.

Max – Agreed. And hail to all our supporters.

Thanks guys and many thanks to Kunal for making this interview happen!

Listen to Forlorn here:

Something a bit different today – I speak with Toby Driver Kayo Dot main man. I’ve been a big fan of the Flenser records and of course John Zorn – anything that gets both of  their seals of approval is a-ok with me. Read on.

* The band has been going for over 10 years now which is twice as long as the average band sticks together. What do you think has given you the longevity to stay in the game for so long?
It’s true Kayo Dot’s been a thing for about 14 years now, but we haven’t had a consistent lineup the whole time. So, if you think of it as a “band,” then there is no such longevity– I haven’t been able to hold band members together for longer than five or six years. There’s no money and people want to get on with their lives. I keep doing it because that’s what I do.

* From memory you went from a metal band to forming Kayo Dot…what inspired you to switch streams so to speak?
My previous band, maudlin of the Well, was sort of a metal band but also was pretty non-traditional. The big change was that I wanted to stop using riffs and repetitive forms, and do something that was through-composed, or non-repetitive… but in the context of heavy music. These days, though, I do a mix of through-composed and riff-based music.

* What was the hardest thing about doing kayo dot from leaving the traditional structure of a “metal band”
As mentioned above, MOTW wasn’t a traditional metal band whatsoever, so it wasn’t a difficult transition, but eventually the ideas in Kayo Dot became more abstract. Therefore, I guess maybe the hardest thing at first was trying to figure out how to communicate more advanced or unusual ideas to a band of musicians with widely varying degrees of ability.

* What was the best part?
Probably being able to play shows that didn’t consist of exclusively metal bands, simultaneously expanding and closing our circle.

* I know you have said in the past you were a fan of bands like Emperor and Gorguts yet you have elements of prog and shoegaze in KD. Are you surprised that both of these styles still fall under the umbrella of “black metal” in 2016?
I’d say that I’m more amused than surprised that black metal has become such a massively popular style. It’s basically conformist pop music.

* Your song topics touch on spirituality and occultism – do you practice any faith at all? Enochian magick?  If so which one? Any of the other band members?
Nope, not at all personally. Our lyricist, Jason Byron, has his own deep and complex spirituality though. He lays out a primer in the “Sword of Satan” which we released with Hubardo.

* You guys have some touring history but it must be hard when you have the full orchestra – what’s been the best parts of going on tour? and what’s the been the worst? Can we expect more touring in the future?
We don’t tour with a large ensemble anymore or play the songs that require one. Doing it at the financial level we’re at is shitty, unenjoyable, and compromised. We’ll do it again someday if we ever get popular and have the budget for it. Until then, we’ll tour on a small scale here and there… we usually do a few months every year.

* How did the deal with John Zorn’s record label come about? Were you guys friends already? Was it a goal forming the band to work with John in some capacity
I sent him a demo way back in the day, but we didn’t know each other. I was a fan of course, but the band wasn’t formed specifically to try to work with him. But I’d say that working with him was one of my personal musical goals, and still is a goal to go deeper with him.

* I think at one stage you were using the crowd funding model to work the band as opposed to a traditional record deal, what made you choose that route and would you do it again?
That’s not exactly true. We funded Hubardo via preorders, but that’s not really the same as crowdfunding– it’s just basic capitalism. I tried some crowdfunding for a few of my other bands though, bands that have absolutely zero market potential, and it’s not a model I would like to return to. It’s too difficult to manage well.

* How did the deal with the Flenser come about and since both John Zorn and Jonathan Flenser are both characters what are the biggest differences in how they run their labels, as far as you , the artist is concerned?
Same, I wrote to him and asked him if he was interested in working together. Jonathan and I already had a very basic relationship though because he’d released a Vaura record on vinyl.

* What can we expect in 2017 for Kayo Dot?
I’m actually not exactly sure yet. Some cool things are in the works, but might not be finished in time.

* Any shout outs or final words?
Please follow me on facebook: facebook.com/tobydriver and facebook.com/kayodot.official
Thanks everyone!

Following on from our conversation with the guys from Norse in Australia last week, this week I talk to the guys from Kiwi Black metal band Exordium Mors. Read this and you will learn what it takes to stay in a successful band for 12+ year when you are based in one of the most isolated countries in the world – if that’s not dedication then I don’t know what is!

* First off congrats on the new record deal – how did that all come about?
Black Mortum:​ We were approached by Kunal from Transcending Obscurity with a very
straight up no bullshit contract. We had worked together previously on “The Apotheosis Of
Death” album where he did PR for the Asia Pacific region for our label at the time “Iron
Blood and Death Corp” from Mexico. We also saw him picking up bands such as “The Furor”,
“Rudra” and “Dusk” which further solidified the notion that he shares our taste in metal and
the ethos that goes with it.

* Would you say bands from New Zealand (or even Australia) are
disadvantaged say, compared to bands coming from Europe or the USA?
Black Mortum:​ Hard call I think this one. There’s a very few things that we have to endure
that some Euro/US bands don’t have to deal with as much. Like there being next to no
neighboring countries to easily tour. Apart from Australia, the closest country with any sort
of metalhead population would be Indonesia. Just means building a dedicated fan base can
take longer. Even with the internet and its various flooded means to distribute your music
globally, the best way I find to get people to remember you within the masses of bands is to
tear them a new asshole live on stage! Everything outside this however doesn’t seem to be
much of an impact! If you got the chops you’ll find your way out to the rest of the world. It’s
far from impossible and we’re not the only remote region that has to deal with such an
ordeal.

Scourge:​ This isn’t a “black and white” situation, but there are definite limitations when
coming from the ass-end of the world. For instance, touring is easier for European or
American bands when playing in their respective countries. It is much more expensive for an
Australasian band to go to these places and tour, not only for flights but also currency
conversion.

Some positives would be that we are a bit of an “unknown” country for metal, thus it makes
us seem more “exotic” or “interesting” to the global metal scene. Also due to our “relative”
isolation, we’ve been able to foster our own “sound(s)” and create “unique” music, rather
than following whatever trendy bullshit is happening on a global level.

* Do you guys have a home studio set up to record or do you have a “go to”
studio to record at? If so do they understand what you guys needs sonically?
Black Mortum:​ All our releases were recorded live, as in the whole band playing together in
the main room with headphones. Overdubs for the vocals and guitar solos. Due to this
approach we have always gone to a studio in order to separate all instruments in a live
environment.

The last album was recorded at Revolver Studios in 3 days. Beast of a studio with awesome
equipment. Since the “Verus Hostis” EP we have used Alex Selman of “Odin Recordings” to
record all releases. He also mixed and mastered all of them bar “Sacrifice, Perish and
Demise” which was done by Cjs of “Temple of Sol”. Both engineers are close friends and
certainly understood what we needed sonically, both with roots in metal.

We will however take a different approach to the next release. All instruments will be
recorded separately. We have a studio in mind for the drums, and the rest will be done in a
home studio environment, either at Temple of Sol or at my place. I’ll spare the technical
details and purpose for each as I’ll be ranting for a while, haha but rest assure this is
certainly going to be a large leap in sound quality even though the whole lot wasn’t
recorded in studio. We’ll be bringing in Cjs once again to mix and master, however this time
he will be doing the capture too.

* What is the song writing process for the band? Do you come up with the riffs
and the band build songs around them? Do you have any input with the lyrics
or do you just let Scourge Witchfucker have free reign?
Black Mortum:​ Guitars and bass are all written together in a jam room. Sometimes one
person will come in with an idea and we will go from there, and others are completely
candid. This is always followed by a scratch track recorded for the drummer to come up with
beats and lyrics to be written.
Lyrics are always free reign for Scourge and we work together
with the drummer to come up with the beats in certain parts that are crucial to our initial
vision, however for the most part the drums are also free reign for the drummer.

We always talk among ourselves to ensure we’re aligned in approach. Discussing what type
of songs are needed for which parts of the next release, stylistic aspects on how we want
our music to progress overall. Rest assured we’re an evolving band and always will be. A
pledge to never be one who keeps releasing the same album again and again.

Scourge:​ I usually wait until the rest of the band has finished writing the music before I put
lyrics to it. That way, I can make slight adjustments to the song to fit around the lyrics if
need be (shorten/lengthen passages etc.). Once finished with writing the lyrics, the entire
band are given a copy to look over. If there are any adjustments to be made, then we will
mediate so everyone is happy with the lyrics, in particular the “intent” or “message” that I
am trying to convey. All band members can have input into the lyric-writing, and have done
so for some songs in the past, however the majority of lyric-writing is left up to me.

Santi:​ As Black Mortum and Scourge have already said, the song writing process really is a
collective effort with us and we make it a point to try and keep it this way. It’s happened
quite often that I’ll have a riff and I’ll have an idea of how it should be played or what should
go behind it and then one of the other guys will have a different idea that actually makes it
sound so much better than what I originally envisioned.

Our approach also helps us avoid writing songs that sound too similar to the next song. I know that there are bands where there’s the one songwriter and everyone just follows – that’s simply not for us. One other thing is that we have to be more than happy with the end result. The song has to be
something that we would actually listen to. We’ve often enough written entire songs and
then canned or took them apart after because we weren’t satisfied.

Assailant:​ The best part of it to me is when we take what is initially written by each of us,
say a riff or a structure perhaps an idea that was completely amping in its most raw form
and we focus on evolving it. We ask ourselves “what exactly can we do here to elaborate on
this part more”, “can we add something a little more interesting here”,”Lets up the ante
with this next bit”. At times it can be a very trying task, but from one song to the next we all
have that benchmark to meet for ourselves. We all have a limit of our own abilities to push.
As a result you end up with is this beast of a piece that glances left and right, completely and
utterly evil, varied paced and driven. You end up getting more than just your run of the mill.
That is what we look for in our riffs and to me it’s what genuine progress in our own art is.

* Its great to see you guys have a a mix of different ethnicities in the band, how diverse is the New Zealand metal scene?
Scourge:​  We have various ethnic lineages, but to save time I will say the major ethnicities currently in the band is English/Irish, Filipino and Malaysian/Sri Lankan. Some of us are 5+ generation NZers
though, whereas the others immigrated here when they were young adults or teenagers.

The NZ Metal scene is pretty mixed for the most part. Bands like CorpseFeast, Horrendous
Disfigurement, Nullifier, to name a few, have Maori and Pacific Islander members. Auckland
has a large influx of immigrants, so there are a wide range of ethnicities within the metal
community. Generally speaking, there isn’t racism in the scene and if people hold that view
then they get put in their place pretty quickly.

* Where is the best black metal scene in New Zealand? Is it mainly Auckland or
elsewhere?
Scourge:​ I wouldn’t say there is a “best”. There is quite a healthy collection of black metal
bands from all around the country, but the main cities like Wellington and Auckland have
the most.

* How easy is it to tour NZ?
Scourge:​ Fairly easy. All the main cities (Auckland, Wellington and (Anti)Christchurch) are
about half an hour to an hour and a half flight away from each other. Driving to smaller
locales is easier in the South Island than the North Island, but a good 5-7 hour drive can get
you to most places around the North.

It can be harder if you are an international band from Europe or USA touring here, for the
same reasons as a NZ band touring in Europe or USA as mentioned earlier. It is best done
when an Australian promoter has hooked up a tour in Australia in these cases, as NZ can be
added to the tour. Once on the ground per se, it is fairly easy to go from the main cities as
outlined above.

‘Black Mortum’, our guitarist, is part of Chaos NZ Promotions which brings bands over to NZ.
Absu, Behemoth, Impiety and Inquisition are just some of the names that have come
through here thanks to Chaos NZ Promotions. www.chaosnz.com has more information.

* How did the tour with Destroyer 666 come about? Were you happy with the
tour and if so why?
Black Mortum:​ Being a part of Chaos NZ Promotions, we received the offer and being big
fans it was on our bucket list of bands to bring to NZ. We got our brothers at Valhalla
touring involved and made it happen! Exordium Mors would be national support as in NZ, I
don’t think it would be disputed that we’re the closest / best fit for the shows. It was a great
little 2 date tour and it was certainly a privilege to share the stage with them. It had been a
while since we’ve played any new material, so these shows were a great time to unleash a
couple new tracks. A taste of things to come and it was well received!
* What are your thoughts on KK warslut and the way he deals with the metal
media?
Santi:​ He’s a rough character who shoots straight and shoots from the hip and I’ll say that
most people in Metal these days simply can’t handle that. It was great having a drink and a
bit of a long talk with the guy when they were here and for the record, we spoke at length
about politics, the current state of the Western world plus many other things and we see
eye to eye on so much. Yes, you read that correctly and I’m an Asian who migrated to New
Zealand.

As for how he deals with the “metal media”, if you’re talking about the agenda driven
personnel from that ironic website, well they had it coming. I mean they can say and write
what they want and by the same token, KK (and anyone else) can do the same. As far as I’m
concerned, those people from that website are the same wimps and posers that Manowar
spoke off and they should leave the hall.

* Speaking of touring have you guys done much touring in Australia?
Scourge:​ So far, we’ve done 2 small tours of Australia and opened for Tribulation in Sydney
as a once-off gig.

* Most bands find it hard to continue for more than 5 years you guys have
been going for 12 years now- what’s the secret to your longevity?
Black Mortum:​ I guess over the years it has always felt that we’re only still scratching the
surface of what we can do together as a band. We have been through multiple drummers
over the years (which is also another reason we don’t have that many releases) as finding
drummers here is difficult. Our core members have stayed the same however. With
inspiration to song-writing, there have been bumpy times but always suddenly sparks would
fire and we’d all be on board feeding off each other’s ideas.

I think that’s it. If you feel like your music isn’t progressing or the ones around you aren’t on
the same page, then get out. I think we have been lucky to have a group of good friends and
dedicated players with a similar artistic direction.

Scourge:​ Dedicated members

Santi:​ We’re Metalheads

* How did you personally get into black metal? What was your “gateway” band
so to speak?
Black Mortum:​ Back in my teens I was always into heavy and death metal. I was always into
Sepultura’s “Morbid Visions”, which one could argue is black metal. I only got into “black
metal” when I switched schools in ‘99 and met a few other metalheads. “The One Rode to
Asa Bay” video that directed me to the rest of Bathory and the “I Am the Black Wizards” live
video from “Emperial Live Ceremony” that was floating around #mp3-blackdeath on Dalnet
was what resonated with me most. I was pointed to them from said school mates. History
goes from there haha. Yes Metal Nerd as fuck and a lot of digging afterwards.

Scourge:​ Personally, Scandinavian bands such as Emperor, Mayhem and Bathory first led me
on to the path of black metal.
Santi:​ For me to answer this question completely, I’ll first say that Black Metal isn’t defined by one sound or style. The first encounter for me was back in 88/89 with the song “Black
Sabbath” when I was 13. This was followed closely by Slayer’s “Show No Mercy” album.
Even back then I could hear that they touched on a certain something in that album:
Blackness. That blackness wasn’t present on “South of Heaven” nor “Reign In Blood.” Years
passed and things like “Seven Churches” and “At War With Satan” came into my life and of
course I got into Mercyful Fate and Hellhammer. Around 1995 or so I heard Emperor’s “In
the Nightside Eclipse” but that sound wasn’t what I was looking for at the time, it would
take years before I got into it.

And then in late 2000 came a life changer: Dissection’s “Storm Of The Light’s Bane.” People
talk about certain albums being a watershed etc. and this was it for me. It had the same
impact that “Seventh Son of a Seventh Son”, “Rust In Peace” and “Sad Wings of Destiny” had
on me when I was a teenager.

So anyhow, as you can see the blackness was always there.

* What new black metal bands do you currently rate?
Scourge:​ I always have my ear out for new bands within New Zealand and globally. Since
you said black metal, I’ll keep it strictly black metal or bands with a black metal “influence”.
Locally, bands like Trepanation, Vomit Storm and Exaltation really impress me. Although
strictly not “new”, Inside Arkham, BulletBelt and Winter Deluge I also rate quite highly. The
mysterious Verberis is also quite killer. It may be time to do some shameless self-promotion,
but I did write a zine of which I did three issues ‘Axiom of the Elite’ which focused only on
NZMetal bands, if people are interested in the scene/bands I suggest picking up a copy. I still
have copies of issue 3 available, hit up deusintroclades@gmail.com for copies.

Globally, I’m quite digging the Black Twilight Circle bands like Volahn and Blue Hummingbird
on the Left. The Polish scene is also buzzing at the moment with the likes of Mgla, Deus
Mortem and Batushka, all of which I play regularly. Front is a brand new band that I can’t
seem to get enough of lately. May need to end it there or this interview will be a
comprehensive list of bands haha.

Santi:​ I haven’t heard any new Black Metal bands that have really done it for me this past
year but Deus Mortem’s new EP is quite good and there’s this band from Spain called
Sheidim that I’ve been listening to on and off recently.
A couple bands that I’ve gotten into quite a bit though are Volahn and Blue Hummingbird
On The Left (Los Guerreros del kulto de Huitzilopochtli!!!). I wouldn’t call either of them
Black Metal but they rule nonetheless!! Ah Axeman is another one.

* Has any of the band ever visited the USA? if So what did they think of it?
Black Mortum:​ Visiting the US for the first time in adulthood in February! I’ll let you know
after haha.

Santi:​ I’ve been there twice in recent years and I really like it.

* Does Exordium Mors have any “bucket list” shows they would love to play?
Bloodstock? Maryland Death fest? Hole in the Sky Norway etc?
Black Mortum: ​Maryland Death Fest, Metal Days and Party San Open Air are certainly
festivals I’d like to play in Euro / US. HammerSonic Fest in Indonesia would be another! Lots
of die-hard Indonesian metal maniacs over there!

Scourge​: We are keen to play any overseas fest, I can’t say there is one that sticks out from
the rest personally.

* Any final words to your fans?
Scourge:​ Look out for our second full-length album to be released via Transcending
Obscurity Records in the next year or so. We hope to bring doom and destruction to the
masses in your respective countries soon! Denounce your gods and your politics. Worship